Minnesota Vikings Discussion – SkolAsylum: 09 Oct 2023

Caleb Williams

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Man, I had no expectations going into this game. However, the Vikings managed to get our hopes up by going into halftime tied with the Chiefs. The Vikings offense went into 3-and-out mode to start the half, and the Chiefs built a lead. Then, the Vikings did just enough to give us hope again, then gave us another gut shot as they basically ended the game by taking a sack on a hail of mary play at the end of the game.

Mistakes are klling this team’s season. Fumbles are an obvious issue. Dropped passes are also an issue, as are errantly placed passes at times. We could go on and on, but those are sticking out to me.

Hockenson is NOT earning his keep at this point. He can shove his ear ache, and start making catches now that he got his contract. The O-line is still not elite, but they are improved and are no longer THE problem.

The team has issues, yet they almost beat the Super Bowl Champs. Now JJ’s status is unknown as he left the game with an apparent hamstring issue. This friggin’ team, man.

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How about we just bitch about the loss? From the fumble on the opening play to taking a sack on the hail mary at the end of the game. Which mistakes irked you the most?

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Mick
Mick
9 October 2023 6:27 pm

If Kirk only had a top 5 OL and top 15 D.

tali about being wrong.

VikingPhilip
9 October 2023 4:52 pm

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kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
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9 October 2023 11:25 pm

I always enjoy watching the Packers get beat. Thank you, Raiders!

VikingPhilip
9 October 2023 4:50 pm

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KFEY93
9 October 2023 3:38 pm

Ah, lovely photo up top. Thank you. Shame a few posters didnt seem to drop it to view it.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  KFEY93
9 October 2023 3:48 pm

Thats the guy who said he might not come out this year as he can make more $$ in collage with NIL money than a rookie NFL contract??

KFEY93
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
9 October 2023 3:49 pm

It is. Thats a lot of talk and its 6 months until the draft. A lot can change.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  KFEY93
9 October 2023 3:52 pm

Currently pulling in $2.6 mil.
That can go up as well.

NFL will still be there when his eligibility is up.

KFEY93
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
9 October 2023 3:54 pm

WIll have to wait and see. Doesnt have to be him either. Ill take any of the top 5 rookie QBs on the cheap over Dip Shit Statue under center for $40 mil a year.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  KFEY93
9 October 2023 3:59 pm

I don’t have a problem moving on and getting a top QB prospect.

Tanking for the #1 pick who may or may not come out, who may or may not be good, or who may or may not pull a Richardson and get injured, that is something different.

KFEY93
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
9 October 2023 4:07 pm

The team wont tank, but they should sell and take advantage of the opportunity that many thought they wouldnt have. Move assets, grow draft capitol, win the 4ish games you might have a chance in and call it a season.

Surly Viking
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9 October 2023 4:39 pm

DE Viking
Reply to  KFEY93
9 October 2023 4:00 pm

I think I like McCarthy more…..

freezeyface
Reply to  DE Viking
9 October 2023 4:09 pm

i’m warming up to mccarthy.

DE Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
9 October 2023 3:53 pm

That isn’t true. Just a story made up be some uninformed talker.
NIL brings around $2 million.
Here is top ten salaries of 2023 1st rounders…

What is the NFL rookie salary scale by round?Here’s the total value of each first-round rookie contract for 2023, according to Spotrac:

No. 1: $41.2 million
No. 2: $39.4 million
No.3: $38.2 million
No. 4: $36.9 million
No. 5: $34.5 million
No.6: $30.4 million
No. 7: $27.02 million
No. 8: $23.7 million
No.9: $23.5 million
No.10: $22.6 million

No way NIL is paying $8 million ish per year.

norseman1
norseman1
9 October 2023 2:06 pm

Wonder if Bears favored, that be a hoot.

HUNViking
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 2:17 pm

They could be. Wonder is heads finally start to explode when we go 1-5.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  HUNViking
9 October 2023 2:30 pm

I am leaving Anger did a ‘drive by’ in Bargaining and Depression am pretty much arriving in Acceptance in my grief stages.

denial.anger.bargaining.depression.acceptance.

DE Viking
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
9 October 2023 2:44 pm

I’ve been in the acceptance stage for 3 decades.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  DE Viking
9 October 2023 2:47 pm

Yup,
kind of the default setting.

Quess it is why sliding down the steps and into place happens so quickly.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  DE Viking
9 October 2023 2:49 pm

Pretty sure i won’t live long enuf, unless male expectancy climbs to 200 post covid.

DE Viking
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 2:53 pm

Maybe we could freeze our DNA and be brought back to life to witness a superbowl again. Just a thought.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  DE Viking
9 October 2023 2:55 pm

Think i’ll be looking down at it. (hopefully)

DE Viking
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 3:46 pm

Good point.
I hope the same.
Not sure they watch the Super Bowl in heaven though.

norseman1
norseman1
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9 October 2023 4:02 pm

Think if you subscribe it’s a option.

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DE Viking
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 2:43 pm

They should be.
Vegas has to factor the fumbles into the betting line.
We know there will be at least one.

KFEY93
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 3:42 pm

I think they should be in all honesty.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 5:36 pm

Looks like Vikings open as a 3pt favorite.

norseman1
norseman1
9 October 2023 1:57 pm

Today a federal holiday? Groundhog day? Wait, that’s spring. Where is my paycheck?

KFEY93
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 3:42 pm

Nope! Just national raping and pillaging day! Thats what Columbus did Afterall, they dont teach that in 5th grade though.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  KFEY93
9 October 2023 4:44 pm

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  KFEY93
9 October 2023 4:50 pm

Actually everyone did that throughout history.

Julius Caesar wrote about it in Gaul.
Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, you name it, they did it.
They didn’t teach any of that in 5th grade either.

Of course an education isn’t suppose to teach you everything.
It is suppose to give you the basics and open you up to the idea of lifelong learning.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
9 October 2023 4:53 pm

And it is still happening.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  VikingPhilip
9 October 2023 4:54 pm

Yup.
Hamas is posting it, proud of it.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
9 October 2023 11:54 pm

Disgusting. Saw a video on twitter (it’s been removed now) of Hamas lighting a teenage girl on fire. All of these people around the world (including some here in America) celebrating these atrocities, I just don’t get it.

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9 October 2023 1:42 pm



freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 1:43 pm

the tank is on

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 1:43 pm

JK

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 1:43 pm

the tank is off

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 1:44 pm

Tank for Caleb.

Mjolnir
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 1:46 pm

^^ fake news….

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Mjolnir
9 October 2023 1:49 pm

Heard some of presser, never heard him say the like.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Mjolnir
9 October 2023 2:06 pm

@Vikimqs so fake.

norseman1
norseman1
9 October 2023 1:17 pm

Think Twins should have started Ryan game one. Inconsistent i know but pull him. He’s good when on.

freezeyface
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 1:23 pm

shoulda coulda woulda..

will be interested to see who they start game 4.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 1:25 pm

Win tom huge, then all pokers in fire game 4.

freezeyface
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 1:27 pm

i will have a hard time believing we won if we win tomorrow.

the minnesota in me is skeptical. but splitting IN houston was HUGE

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 1:29 pm

Thought you would drag boy(s) to one.

freezeyface
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 1:39 pm

i’m kicking myself for not buying a playoff strip

benjammin
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Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 1:51 pm

I’ll go to a game if they make the WS

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 1:57 pm

but that’s why i’m kicking myself for not buying the strip right away. one WS ticket off stubhub or the like will probably cost the same as the whole playoff strip

norseman1
norseman1
9 October 2023 1:12 pm

Think womens beach volleyball the way to go rest of year. Can’t find however. Must need a subscription.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 1:28 pm

Cutest butts in world, so i’m told.

freezeyface
9 October 2023 1:12 pm

i’m still trying to figure out how that pachenco guy carried so many of our dlineman with pretty much every run.

we are weak.

i could probably make the couch take a nap

VikingPhilip
9 October 2023 12:32 pm

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Northwoods
9 October 2023 12:03 pm

Are the Vikings just talent hoarders? Sign Risner and dump him in a corner, forgotten…..on to the next shiny new thing……

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Northwoods
9 October 2023 12:06 pm

Well they are giving Akers some snaps.

IOL has been doing a bit better so maybe Risner was ‘incentive’/injury insurance.

Northwoods
Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
9 October 2023 12:09 pm

He must not be outplaying Ingram in practice yet.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  Northwoods
9 October 2023 12:12 pm

Maybe he doesn’t know the scheme and rest of linemen enough to work as part of the team yet.

Expect that part to come but it does take awhile for it to come together.

benjammin
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9 October 2023 11:38 am

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 11:45 am

Where is Potato and Pace Jr?

benjammin
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Reply to  SoCalMinnFan
9 October 2023 12:00 pm

O’neill graded out at 65 overall, Pace somewhere between 50 and 60.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 12:03 pm

thanks.

Uncommonly low for the two of them.

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 11:49 am

i wonder what it means when zero skill positions players (minus qb) made the top offensive list haha

VikingPhilip
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9 October 2023 12:23 pm

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DE Viking
9 October 2023 11:30 am

So I guess the benching threat for fumbles is now out.

Nobody is more crushed than Josh over that play,” head coach Kevin O’Connell said postgame. “I just wanted to make sure he was good to go for the rest of the day to be able to continue to be his normal self.

“We will continue to emphasize ball security. I thought there could have been a little bit more of an offhand cover there in traffic and that’s what we emphasize, what we’re coaching. But clearly, it’s going to be something that even if you just have one, even on the first play of the game, you look up there at the end and you just wonder, what if — knowing the kind of rhythm we had on offense there in the first half to at least drive and potentially get points every time we had it.”

benjammin
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9 October 2023 11:41 am

VikingPhilip
9 October 2023 11:24 am

I will always root for the Vikings, but this year I may also cheer on the Lions as I am so sick of hearing about the constant love for the Eagles, 49ers, Cowboys, etc.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  VikingPhilip
9 October 2023 11:33 am

Thinking about that but hard to do. I hate all of them.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 11:35 am

Raider fan tonight, however.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 11:39 am

Amen Brother.

FloridaSKOL
FloridaSKOL
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 12:52 pm

FTP!

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 11:48 pm

Same!

benjammin
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Reply to  Gone fishin'
9 October 2023 12:25 pm

Plus they’re one of the worst 5 teams in the NFL almost every season.

DE Viking
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 1:04 pm

I wonder if other fans from other teams feels bad for the Vikings.?

benjammin
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Reply to  DE Viking
9 October 2023 1:16 pm

I’m sure some do

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 11:50 pm

Fans of lots of teams hate the Packers too, so likely.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  VikingPhilip
9 October 2023 11:48 pm

I’m definitely rooting for the Lions. I really enjoy watching the 49ers too, albeit a little jealous of those studs in the trenches, and their defense is a thing of beauty. Enjoyed watching them curb stomp the Cowboys. I will NEVER root for the Packers, enjoyed watching them lose to the Raiders, who aren’t very good. Could someone please beat the freaking Eagles, UGH!

norseman1
norseman1
9 October 2023 10:42 am

Need to win 12 straight to match 2022, wonder what our chances are?

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 10:48 am

Low – but other than 49ers a lot of winnable games. But must hold on to the ball to do so.

SoCalMinnFan
SoCalMinnFan
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 11:18 am

Slim to none and Slim just left town.

Doesn’t mean we can’t have a decent season.
Given all the crap that has gone wrong so far you could figure that we have just about used up our seasons allotment.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 11:21 am

We could go on a run like the Lions did last year.

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benjammin
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9 October 2023 10:38 am

Hock would have dropped the ball

Northwoods
9 October 2023 10:18 am

Any given Sunday…..

In one of my FF leagues I am 4-0, going up against a guy 1-3.

He’s kicking the holy Hell out of me 183 – 89, and has one more guy to play tonight.

Wrenage
Reply to  Northwoods
9 October 2023 10:33 am

I had a similar situation in reverse.

I am 2-2 and played the 4-0 guy. I beat him 127.94 to 127.76!

Northwoods
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 10:38 am

.07 to spare!! Good job!

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VikingPhilip
Reply to  Northwoods
9 October 2023 11:22 am

It would have been better if it was 007.

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norseman1
norseman1
9 October 2023 10:17 am

What’s with these mid afternoon MLB baseball playoffs?

freezeyface
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 10:36 am

global warming

VikingPhilip
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 11:27 am

Freezey is dropping some truth bombs.

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freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:47 am

in other freeze news, my cat is a stone cold killer….

this summer i would put her kill count at:

17 mice
9 birds
3 rabbits
3 moles
countless dragonflies
1 screen door

Surly Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:49 am

Way better than my mini-pin mix terror dog.
He has killed 1 rabbit, 1 bird(in flight,just got too low) and 1 vole.
But he has no claws like cats, so I think that is still impressive.

freezeyface
Reply to  Surly Viking
9 October 2023 9:51 am

that is pretty impressive.
would have enjoyed seeing him catching the bird in flight haha

norseman1
norseman1
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9 October 2023 9:50 am

Mjolnir
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:51 am

Goose murdered half a bag of Nutter Butters while I napped before the Vikings game yesterday…..

Surly Viking
Reply to  Mjolnir
9 October 2023 9:57 am

I napped during the Vikings game, but I did not get any Nutter Butters.

VikingPhilip
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9 October 2023 11:29 am

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norseman1
norseman1
9 October 2023 9:45 am

Trade Hunter, KJ and KOC. And Queasy.

Surly Viking
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 9:48 am

I am fine with JJ being traded also. But I give the coach and GM a couple more years.
If they can find any way to keep Flores, it would be good.

freezeyface
Reply to  Surly Viking
9 October 2023 9:51 am

i can see JJ becoming more and more diva and complaining as time rolls on…

he already is kind of.

Surly Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:54 am

Agreed. Team survived after Diggs left. Honestly I feel the team needs to stop overpaying for any skill position and beef up both lines.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Surly Viking
9 October 2023 9:55 am

Might get a couple 1’s from a contending team.

Surly Viking
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 9:58 am

Thinking the same thing. Get another #1 at least, and you can trade two firsts to move up and pick the wrong QB again.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  Surly Viking
9 October 2023 10:01 am

Another Ponder. If i only had another 50 years in me to see this team succeed.

Wrenage
Reply to  Surly Viking
9 October 2023 10:34 am

This, this and only this. Trenches, trenches, trenches.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 10:42 am

100%.

Northwoods
Reply to  Gone fishin'
9 October 2023 1:03 pm

We should have hired Flores for HC, and KOC for OC.

SkolfromMT
SkolfromMT
9 October 2023 9:39 am

I am starting to think KOC’s feel good love you guys schtick is leading to undisciplined play. Dropped passes, fumbles, missed int’s etc. Or maybe just a run of bad luck. A 62 year run of bad luck.

freezeyface
Reply to  SkolfromMT
9 October 2023 9:44 am

no don’t worry, he is going to start to bench the guys who fumble….

one of these days…

it’s gonna happen…

trust him it will….

reminds me of the parents that count to 3 for their kids. losers.

Northwoods
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:46 am

And one of these days he’s going to replace one of the guards with someone better, because he wants the “5 best players on the field.”

freezeyface
Reply to  Northwoods
9 October 2023 9:49 am

WHERE IS RISNER??

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Surly Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:50 am

Northwoods
Reply to  SkolfromMT
9 October 2023 9:45 am

The tank is in. WAY too many things going against us to be pure coincidence.

Surly Viking
Reply to  SkolfromMT
9 October 2023 9:47 am

was thinking the same thing. Seems like discipline is lacking, but at least they are collaborating on being bad.

SkolfromMT
SkolfromMT
Reply to  Surly Viking
9 October 2023 9:51 am

A well coordinated effort

DE Viking
Reply to  SkolfromMT
9 October 2023 9:56 am

Competitive Tanking.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  DE Viking
9 October 2023 9:57 am

I like that. Can i use it?

DE Viking
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 10:18 am

Sure can

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  SkolfromMT
9 October 2023 10:55 am

The first game or two, you can blame rust/not playing starters in preseason. After that, one or two undisciplined players, bench them until they improve. This many mistakes by this many players at this stage of the season, look to coaching/front office.

JRobert
JRobert
9 October 2023 9:38 am

As everyone knows, you are what you record is and ours is not good. But in many ways we seem to be better than last year. Fumbles are killing us, but think it’s even more basic.
First game. ball in receivers hands at goal and the ball gets pulled out.
Next, drop a ball at goal line out of endzone.
Next, ball in receiver’s hand at goal line.
Yesterday, two dropped TD passes – again in our hands.
Qb’s will miss throws, lineman will miss blocks and defenders will miss tackles. But, when the ball is in your hands,just hang on to it. Makes a big difference between 4 -1 and 1-4.

NoDakRube
Reply to  JRobert
9 October 2023 6:11 pm

Agree

skolifer
skolifer
9 October 2023 9:30 am

A lot of the national media is still harping on how bad the Vikings defense is this year but I actually think they’ve played pretty well for the most part, especially when you consider how many bad situations the offense has put them in via turnovers. Opposing offenses have benefited from a lot of short fields, not to mention we have the 2nd lowest time of possession in the league this year.

Our star studded offense that can’t hang onto the ball (and, more recently, can’t catch it either) and head coaching gaffs are the team’s biggest issues. Our defense is good enough to win a lot of games, IMO.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  skolifer
9 October 2023 9:42 am

The defense is better than last year. Doesn’t mean its good mind you, but its better than last year.

norseman1
norseman1
9 October 2023 9:26 am

Not a expert, although iam. Should be thinking about trades real hard.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 9:31 am

I’ve got you beat norse. I am an expert. Just don’t ask of which I am an expert.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  VikingPhilip
9 October 2023 9:34 am

Saw 1st play of game and basically checked out. Twins won tho, there’s something.

HUNViking
Reply to  VikingPhilip
9 October 2023 2:02 pm

Salt? And salt mines?

VikingPhilip
Reply to  HUNViking
9 October 2023 4:46 pm

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norseman1
norseman1
9 October 2023 9:25 am

2-3 turnovers @Bears, loss. Get stepped on by 9ers. Game over. Game, set, match.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  norseman1
9 October 2023 11:03 am

If 9ers stay healthy, not sure who can beat them this year. Enjoyed the beat down they put on the Cowboys last night and Purdy looks legit.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
9 October 2023 11:36 am

Purdy is legit, I was really surprised when he didn’t get drafted till the last pick.

kathy.clater.3
kathy.clater.3
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 11:54 am

Sometimes teams get lucky with a late pick. 9ers were already a really good team with a really good coach. Now they’ve got a stud QB on the cheap.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
9 October 2023 11:56 am

Brady a 6, him a 7. Weuse a 12th on Ponder.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  kathy.clater.3
9 October 2023 12:09 pm

Yeah, that’s a loaded team, especially along both lines. Maybe this Jaren Hall guy will turn out to be good, I have my doubts though.

Northwoods
9 October 2023 9:18 am

Utterly frustrating. When you only take into account teams who have beat the Vikings, we are 4-1.

freezeyface
Reply to  Northwoods
9 October 2023 9:19 am

Northwoods
9 October 2023 9:04 am

Anyone have KOC’s email? I’d like to discuss a thing called “rolling out” with him.

Mjolnir
Reply to  Northwoods
9 October 2023 9:07 am

YESSSSSS

ROLL THE GD POCKET ONCE IN A WHILE!

NORTHWOODS SPEAKING TRUTH

sorry for yelling….

freezeyface
Reply to  Mjolnir
9 October 2023 9:20 am

Wrenage
Reply to  Northwoods
9 October 2023 9:15 am
DE Viking
9 October 2023 9:01 am

HS QB pulls off Hail Mary.

freezeyface
Reply to  DE Viking
9 October 2023 9:07 am

is he a viking yet?

Mjolnir
Reply to  Gone fishin'
9 October 2023 9:41 am

freezeyface
Reply to  Gone fishin'
9 October 2023 9:54 am

what’s even more crazy, i saw a stat this morning….

kirk cousins is THE ONLY qb who has ever been sacked while buying time for a hail mary. I couldn’t believe it, but well….there it is. NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER BEEN SACKED ON A HAIL MARY ATTEMPT. crazy stuff.

Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:55 am

Australia is wider than the moon. This frightens me for some reason…

Mjolnir
9 October 2023 8:52 am

Goooooose morning Skolos!

Opening snap fumble – on a + play that gave a 1st down right away.

8 drops yesterday. 3 alone from Hock.

Too many dropped passes.

Too many free rushers getting home

Terrible TO/Clock management – the delay of game on 4th down was a killer.

Goose is not amused.

Skol

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freezeyface
Reply to  Mjolnir
9 October 2023 8:54 am

hock got his money, he don’t care anymore.

the clock mis-management stuff needs to stop. either don’t rely on EVERY SINGLE DETAIL of a play call from KOC to be heard through the headset, or don’t call a play that takes 13 seconds to call. whatever is happening, it needs to stop.

DE Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 8:55 am

Most NFL QB’s know how to pull this off.

Mjolnir
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 8:59 am

Amen. There has to be some sort of ‘nascar’ package for 2 minute drill/no TO scenarios where the play calls are simple and quick – something where ‘Gun Right Trips Shit Rip Freeze’ becomes ‘razor’ or something along those lines. Quick calls – or a series of calls made at once. I dunno – anything other than killing 15 seconds of precious clock.

DE Viking
9 October 2023 8:47 am

I just watched the last hail mary play again.
Kirk had 4 full seconds to throw the ball and all he did was move around to take a sack.
Dude just has no understanding of how to do a hail mary after 15 plus years of being a QB. Embarrassing.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  DE Viking
9 October 2023 9:11 am

Who cares? You are way to fixated with Kirk.
The hail Mary was the least of our problems.

I’d start with Mattison dropping what should have been a game tying TD.
Then I’d go right after the first play fumble.
Then move into Osborne open in the end zone, but doesn’t look for the ball.
As a side note, Osborne and Mattison have not done well stepping into their new roles this year.
Then Mettilus getting position for an int. Or just bat the ball down on 3rd and 18 from the 10 yard line.
Then I’d just add in all 3 of TJs drops. He’s literally killing drives.
Horrible, no good, stupid, Zimmeresque clock management. Should never have needed a hail Mary.
I’d throw in JC getting the 4th and 1 call on Harry while we don’t get a same call on Addison.
Then I’d mention how Kirks passed seem to be just a little off the mark. For multiple games now he has thrown way more balls than I’m comfortable with just a bit off.
I’d maybe throw in another 40 or 50 things, then I’d finally get around to a pass that statistically almost never works, and is literally named after a prayer.

You sound just as ridiculous as NVF does defending Kirk non stop.

I haven’t even scrolled down yet, but I bet half your posts are just whining about Kirk.
Give it a rest.

Northwoods
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:14 am

KJ couldn’t see the ball because it was behind him.

Also, the play where Kirk hit Addison on that crossing route, you could see KJ? Powell? WIDE FREAKING OPEN in the end zone along the same sight path.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  Northwoods
9 October 2023 9:21 am

The ball was behind him, but he never even looks for it.

If you watch a ton of tape on guys like AT, he makes that catch in the end zone.

Good WRs can anticipate where the ball will be the second it leaves the QBs hands.

KJ isn’t even looking at Kirk, so he can’t adjust to the ball.

I’d have to watch the replay, but it looked like to me KJ could have been hit in the helmet and wouldn’t have seen the ball.

Northwoods
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:39 am

It looked like he saw it last second and realized his momentum would not let him catch it. He appeared to fling an arm back behind his head to no avail…

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:48 am

Don’t like to slam players too much, but KJ doesn’t seem to have the ability to adjust to the ball very well He also seems to have a problem using his body to shield a defender off.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:16 am

Bynum, not Metellus was in coverage on the 3rd and 18 fuck up. Everything is always Kirk’s fault. Also, absolutely nothing is ever Kirk’s fault.

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 9:22 am

kirks fault? straight to jail

not kirks fault? believe it or not, jail

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:32 am

This is 100% correct.

I’m going to do something else today.

I’m really not in the mood for a Kirk debate from the usual suspects.

Plus, whatever happened to Judge Roberts?
Aka JRobert?

I liked him and it seems the Kirk bullshit broke him.

I’m gonna hang out on Twitter.

Enjoy your day everyone

VikingPhilip
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:34 am

Twitter is better than Skoloholics? That’s ominous.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:44 am

Thought your take above was right on. Made a note about us not hanging on to the ball above and below.
Yep, totally sick of the Kirk bullshit – just about ruins every discussion about the game.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:40 am

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 9:26 am

The one Kirk issue I’d be most concerned about is his decline in accuracy this year.
We’ve seen flashes of this before, but it’s been more prominent this year.
His passes are off a bit. Not all of them, but way more than I’m comfortable with.
And KJ has a piss poor ability to adjust to this.
Addison is still learning and will get their.
TJ likes to drop tough or contested catches.
Add all this up, and you get 1-4.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:39 am

Kirk sucks?

Mjolnir
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:17 am

Good take – and you’re correct about Mattison and KJ. They’ve not looked good. KJ in the end zone yesterday should’ve been a gimme score. He looked completely lost. Mattison’s drop was brutal. Surefire score with time on the clock and a motivated crowd (the ones in purple anyway)

freezeyface
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:22 am

NOPE ALL KIRKS FAULTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

guess what, he had some bad plays AND SO DID THE REST OF THE TEAM….hard to put blame elsewhere when the one trick ponies only blame kirk

VikingPhilip
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:27 am

It is a team game and the team (plus the coaching staff) failed.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:30 am

It’s just exhausting and ridiculous.
All day long Kirk Kirk Kirk Kirk Kirk Kirk Kirk Kirk Kirk.

It’s a bad team with a decent amount of talent to make it interesting.

It’s also showing signs of a poorly coached team with all these self inflicted fuck ups.

Mjolnir
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:39 am

freezeyface
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:40 am

seems like a few people have a kirk fetish……

DE Viking
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:58 am

Actually, you would be wrong.

MT Viking
Reply to  DE Viking
9 October 2023 9:12 am

Reality: ~10% of Hail Mary passes are successful
Vikings fans: we invented failure at defending Hail Mary passes, you must have that stat wrong…closer to 90% I bet.

DE Viking
Reply to  MT Viking
9 October 2023 9:59 am

but how many QB’s get the pass off in the attempt to be 10% succesful?

42
42
9 October 2023 8:41 am

OTOH: How about them Twins?

VikingPhilip
Reply to  42
9 October 2023 8:42 am

That was nice.

freezeyface
Reply to  42
9 October 2023 8:50 am

really fun to see them dominate from the beginning to the end.

the marlins were foolish to deal Pablo away, great get for the Twins.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:17 am

Most fans still bitch about trading Arraez for lopez

freezeyface
Reply to  benjammin
9 October 2023 9:24 am

those fans are dumb.

i’d take a clear cut #1 pitcher over a guy who has a high batting average with very shallow stats, ALL DAYYYYYYYY

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  42
9 October 2023 12:21 pm

My sister’s and I bought my grandma a ticket to the game Tuesday. My mom and sister are gonna go with her. I really hope they win or at the very least make a good game of it.

MT Viking
9 October 2023 8:38 am

I think Kirk should have stiff armed the 300 pound DE bearing down on him the last play of the game and thrown a perfect corner of EZ pass to TJ “sure hands” Hockenson only for the NFL to review the replay for adequate field black rubber emanating from the toe of his cleat. Or how about holding on the otherwise successful two point attempt and Joseph misses the subsequent PAT attempt.

So many ways that game could have ended even without a sack.

All in all KOC called a damn good game against Andy Reid and co.

DE Viking
Reply to  MT Viking
9 October 2023 8:40 am

VikingPhilip
Reply to  MT Viking
9 October 2023 8:42 am

It was an exciting game. The ups and downs of a football game are what make football so entertaining.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  MT Viking
9 October 2023 9:14 am

The fixation on Kirk and the hail Mary is just weird. That shit almost never works.
If you want a legit shot, roll Kirk out so he has time to set his feet and throw 45 yards down field

Mjolnir
Reply to  Big Stupid Face
9 October 2023 9:23 am

^^this….

Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:27 am

I am currently dipping nacho Doritos in Cheese Whiz.

This is probably one of those moments ripe for self-evaluation, isn’t it?

MT Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:31 am

Not my favorite Wrenage moment.

freezeyface
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:33 am

dipping in queso would be no issue.

cheese whiz? i’m calling the police to check on you

Wrenage
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 8:43 am

That’s fair. I will turn myself in actually.

DE Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:34 am

You seem to eat lunch and dinner food for breakfast.
Do you ever have good old bacon and eggs in the morning?

Wrenage
Reply to  DE Viking
9 October 2023 8:43 am

I often have oatmeal and eggs for breakfast. I typically eat lunch right on the back of breakfast, though.

Harvest time is even more a free-for-all. Right now I am ravenous because I’m trying to keep up with working out in addition to harvest, so it’s like work out, cram something in face, get in tractor and then only eat what someone brings me occasionally.

Today I am at work in the morning, so it is a snacking binge!

VikingPhilip
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:48 am

Watch out for Wrenage!

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VikingPhilip
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:36 am

RIP Wrenage.

benjammin
Admin
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:46 am

Sounds good to me

Mjolnir
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 9:04 am

Heated Cheez Whiz?

Wrenage
Reply to  Mjolnir
9 October 2023 9:14 am

Surly Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 9:51 am

Wrenage showing the snacking skills.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 12:21 pm

Try the spray cheese on a Dorito. Gordon Ramsey level deliciousness.

Surly Viking
9 October 2023 8:25 am

The Wilfs did not want to rebuild. Looks like they will have to anyways.
let’s see how they handle empty seats in December.

DE Viking
Reply to  Surly Viking
9 October 2023 8:36 am

Well……..
I think Kirk re-signs with the Vikings. No team is going to give him $40 million a year guaranteed. I think he resigns with the Vikings, as that will be his biggest offer.

freezeyface
9 October 2023 8:22 am

it was so very vikings to get a delay of game on the last play of the game hahaha

freezeyface
9 October 2023 8:09 am

one thing i do appreciate about the vikings fumbles this year…

it’s all hands on deck. someone new every game it seems. they say it’s a team sport, sure looks like it!

MT Viking
9 October 2023 8:07 am

I thought it was a great game, we were in position to tie the SB champs/Mahomes at the end.

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
9 October 2023 8:09 am

garbage time stats and scoring, mt viking….even though we were one play away from possibly winning the game, GaRbAgE TiMe StATs

MT Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 8:12 am

That’s not true and you know it. KC never deployed prevent defense, and Mahomes never takes foot off gas. For Pete’s sake Kelce’s ankle is twice normal size today.

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
9 October 2023 8:17 am

VikingPhilip
Reply to  MT Viking
9 October 2023 8:43 am

Freezey was (attempting to) being funny again.

freezeyface
Reply to  VikingPhilip
9 October 2023 8:51 am

i know you love me. somewhere. deep down. it’s in there.

VikingPhilip
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:24 am

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DE Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 8:51 am

even though we were one play away from possibly winning the game

So if Kirk actually threw the hail mary, and a Viking caught it for a touchdown, it would have counted for 8 points rather than 6?

freezeyface
Reply to  DE Viking
9 October 2023 8:56 am

i would have been curious to see if KOC would have gone for 2 if we scored on that play.

Big Stupid Face
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:12 am

He should have gone for two one the TD that made it 20 to 27.
That’s what the advanced metrics say any way.

Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:05 am

I just watched the highlights. Wow, we did a fake punt…successfully!

If I was a ref, I would have just ended the game right there and said, “Vikings win.”

Wrenage
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:09 am

Up to the fun desperation throw by Mahomes now. Looked like Bynum jumped too early and was already coming back to earth when the ball got to him.

Wrenage
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:13 am

I also like Romo’s call about Mahomes looking off the safety on the TD to Kelce when the replay looks like Mahomes was looking at Kelce the whole time.

Wrenage
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:18 am

Vikings apparently used all their timeouts with nine minutes left in the game? That is interesting. I wonder what the earliest a team has run out of timeouts in the second half is.

freezeyface
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:19 am

yeah that was honestly embarassing.

they need to figure out what the heck they are doing in terms of calling plays and breaking the huddle. they are pathetic.

MT Viking
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 8:21 am

Lots of KC fans in the stands. And was that Mrs. Freeze sporting a “SWIFTIE” Vikings jersey?

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
9 October 2023 8:25 am

mrs freeze tuned out as soon as romo declared swift “out” for the game.

Wrenage
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 8:28 am

We need Al Michaels calling out their lack of alacrity.

I always like it when Al uses that word…

Wrenage
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:25 am

And the highlights end on a Kirk sack. Start with a fumble and end on a sack. Chicago gonna be salivating!

Northwoods
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 9:01 am

KOC blew one of them down his leg with that pathetic challenge. Why nobody on the sidelines told him to keep it in his pants is just a mystery.

MT Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:19 am

Wrenage
Reply to  MT Viking
9 October 2023 8:25 am

Marty was great.

MT Viking
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 8:18 am

That was quite the perfectly thrown ball.

freezeyface
Reply to  MT Viking
9 October 2023 8:23 am

a throw perfect for an interception, yes.

benjammin
Admin
9 October 2023 8:04 am

I didn’t see the game but I watched the highlights, lol, of course Kirk would take a sack on the hail mary attempt.

JRobert
JRobert
9 October 2023 7:51 am

Just a couple of thoughts from afar – then will stop.
Lombardi used to say games come down to a handful of plays and whoever wins those, wins the game. We had our chances.
Had Chiefs in the hole, and a long PI against Smith – wow.
Had Chiefs in big hole and a long completion and we had a defender right there for an interception.
Beautiful screen pass set up and we drop the ball.
Beautiful play design and we hit our new TE in stride inside the five and he drops the ball.
Just make the friggin plays when you get your chances
And a bit of a different thought. I’d tell our highly paid TE to start catching the ball and out DP’s there is nothing illegal about putting your hands up and knocking down passes.

FloridaSKOL
FloridaSKOL
Reply to  JRobert
9 October 2023 8:05 am

Yep, just make a few plays and they win. This team loves to choke.
What a shitty 2-min offense.

JRobert
JRobert
Reply to  FloridaSKOL
9 October 2023 8:08 am

And these were not hard plays at all – most are fairly ordinary.

freezeyface
9 October 2023 7:50 am

i don’t know if there is anyone i even like on the vikings right now.

-jefferson is a baby and hurt
-kirk is off
-mattison is meh-ttison
-half of you idiots are better than KJ, he can’t block OR catch
-our safeties don’t know how to time a jump to intercept a jump ball let alone KNOCK IT DOWN
-oh dline is so weak something called pachenco carried them on his back for multiple extra yards
-instead of running plays OUT OF BOUND we run plays just close enough to the sideline to have to run around and spike the ball
-our special teams is the best part of our team, that’s so gross

i guess i like addison, he’s really fast.

Northwoods
Reply to  freezeyface
9 October 2023 9:03 am

half of you idiots are better than KJ, he can’t block OR catch

Um…..thank you?

freezeyface
Reply to  Northwoods
9 October 2023 9:10 am

you are welcome.

bowbunch
bowbunch
9 October 2023 6:49 am

Didn’t see the game and only listened to the first couple of plays and the end. Kiddo and I were chasing, gutting and dragging a speed goat. Sounds like I missed another typical Vikings game, so not much. Bring on the change. Later Kirk. You don’t have to go but you can’t stay here.

SkolfromMT
SkolfromMT
Reply to  bowbunch
9 October 2023 9:27 am

Nice job, we did the same only on Saturday.

bowbunch
bowbunch
Reply to  SkolfromMT
9 October 2023 12:58 pm

We tried Saturday to but somebody didn’t shoot straight. 350, prone, dead rest, smooth trigger pull, thump, look up and watch the antelope walk away. Still perplexed on that one. Worked out yesterday though so all good.

Wrenage
9 October 2023 5:56 am

So close…

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skolifer
skolifer
Reply to  Wrenage
9 October 2023 10:08 am

You need to do one of these with “competitive rebuild” on the right and “tanking” on the left.

Mick
Mick
9 October 2023 5:44 am

Well…

the OL looked good.

Surly Viking
9 October 2023 5:38 am

Which mistakes irked you the most?

Overpaying Kirk.
Extending Kirk.
Giving Kirk yet another extension and giving him a no trade clause.

HUNViking
9 October 2023 5:20 am

No, I am not entertained. Season is going down the drain fast, and the Vikings have mostly themselves to blame for this. This team is going nowhere in 2023.

Surly Viking
Reply to  HUNViking
9 October 2023 5:39 am

Team is going nowhere, ever, until they upgrade at QB

HUNViking
Reply to  Surly Viking
9 October 2023 2:12 pm

Trenches.

norseman1
norseman1
Reply to  HUNViking
9 October 2023 2:17 pm

Trenches, 2nd level, 3rd level, special teams, coach and GM. I predict JJ and Kirk move on.

DE Viking
9 October 2023 4:53 am

Vikings. LOL 😆

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Gone fishin'

Gone fishin'

I'm a dad, husband, Army vet, believer, and a die-hard, life-long Vikings fan from the great state of North Dakota. I've been a Viking fan dating back to 1980, I've been covering the Vikings for nearly a decade, and I founded Skoloholics in 2022. I work in real estate and property management, I love spending time with family, working in the yard, doing anything in the outdoors, and as you can tell from my username, I love fishing. SKOL!!!!!!!!!!

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